OliverG [das archiv von 'typo'] : Rubrik:social spamming
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OliverG [das archiv von 'typo']
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More Spam via MyBlogLog
http://typo.twoday.net/STORIES/3324843/
I already had my run in with Jajah on Flickr, where the 'company' offered to be my fried and thus caused me to close my trial Jajah-Account. Now I have Jajah leave a visitor badge on my MyblogLOr roll in the sidebar: <a href="http://www.mybloglog.com/buzz/members/Jajah/">Jajah - MyBlogLog</a><br />
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Guys: It is called social networking', like in 'real people'. The Jajah-thingy does not stand for one of the funders but just has a blurb for the company in theur profile description (like the did in Flickr).<br />
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I also ot a guy namend 'Pornman' leaving his trace here. So this is the kinda company, Jajah gets themselves into.<br />
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If it is OK in Myspace to add people as frieds for bands or businesses, be it so. But anywhere else I'd call this: SPAM.<br />
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And: I want to have a 'block this person' and 'this is SPAM'-Button within mybloglog. Please.
OliverG
social spamming
Copyright © 2007 OliverG
2007-02-15T13:31:00Z
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Twitter / Blade: example for social spamming
http://typo.twoday.net/STORIES/3310132/
<a href="http://twitter.com/Blade">Blade</a> is a twitter spammer: He has twittered 1 message and 400+ contacts. He seems to be contacting every twitter-user (contacted a contact of mine seconds after me).<br />
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And I am missing an abuse-button ;(<br />
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Note: <br />
- a social networking service without an abuse button is none.<br />
- limit the number of contacts someone can contact per day/minute/hour whatever<br />
- .. others?
OliverG
social spamming
Copyright © 2007 OliverG
2007-02-12T09:32:00Z
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Social Spamming - Systematics
http://typo.twoday.net/STORIES/3241819/
I was talking with Timo Heuer about Social Spamming via Skype and he was so nice to draw (really ;) ) an systematic tree from my first thoughts.<br />
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I just wated to document this here, expand it a little bit with examples and make it machine readble.<br />
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Here is the drawing: <a href="http://heuer.sajonara.de/2007/01/27/sospam-schaubild/">Social Spamming - Schaubild at Timo Heuers Weblog</a>]<br />
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So:<br />
If Social Spamming is 'Spamming in Web 2.0' [wrote about this here: <a href="http://typo.twoday.net/stories/3232181/">http://typo.twoday.net/stories/3232181/</a> ] we have the following types<br />
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<b>Social Spamming</b><br />
* Bookmarkspamming (in del.icio.us and the like, creating SEO-links and traffic)<br />
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* Wiki Spamming<br />
** Link in Wiki for Traffic and SEO<br />
** Automatic generation of Links or entries in 'open' Wikis<br />
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* Weblog-Spam<br />
** Spam Blogs (Blogs conatining LInks and Messages for SEO)<br />
** Comment spamming (Spammer commenting in 'my entry' to point to his/her content/URL)<br />
** Trackback-Spamming (Spammer setting trackbacks in 'my entry' to point t his/her content/URL)<br />
** Referrer Spamming (Spammer linking to my Content, thus showing up in refefrre lists and on technorati ths creating seo-linking and traffic)<br />
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* Contact-Spamming<br />
** creating attention and increasing a social network by requesting "friendship" or "contact" in social networks (may also contain or point to spam-content/URL<br />
** this would also include 'enriching' SN-Guestbooks with more or less meaningless (contact-)messages (like in Orkut)<br />
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Should chat-spam be in here? Any sub-types?
OliverG
social spamming
Copyright © 2007 OliverG
2007-01-27T09:34:00Z
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Social Spamming 101: How not to...
http://typo.twoday.net/STORIES/3232181/
<a >Social Spamming</a> is a topic coming up more and more often.<br />
I would like to try a definition, suggest a 'best practise' how not to be regarded a spammer and point to some examples.<br />
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SPAM<br />
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The effect of SPAM sent though electronic channels is usually an overflow of a communication channel with the ensuing comsumption of time to separate 'real' messages from the 'noise'.<br />
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In e-mail there are two technical terms used for what we have come to call SPAM: 'unsolicited bulk e-mail' and 'unsolicited commercial e-mail' (UBE and UCE).<br />
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These terms imply<br />
- a message sent to me<br />
- that may or may not be sent to others in the same wording<br />
- that has no "precedent", meaning, that it is neither an answer to a message of mine, that I did not subscribe to get it or that I have not met the person or done business with her or him or the respective company - so in short: no prior contact has happened (subscribing somone to a newsletter, just because they have sent you mail or because you are in contact with them in any way is not really acceptable)<br />
- that the message tries to sell me something, be it a 'cause' I am meant to support or something for cash or it just wants to drive traffic to a page that gets cash for page impressions ( -- malware aside here.)<br />
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SOCIAL<br />
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I'd call messages 'social spamming' if they use 'social networks' (or the 'social' components of web services) as their channel in order to<br />
- get messages out<br />
- increase the number of contacts or page views for the sender or an affiliated business<br />
- without there having been an introduction though a mutual friend <br />
- without there haveing been communication either directly or through e-mail <br />
- and if the communication is non-individual<br />
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What to do:<br />
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GET SOMEONE TO INTRODUCE YOU IF<br />
- you have a reason to ;) - <br />
- Give the reason in the message asking the person to introduce you. You might want to write it in a way so that it can be forwarded without editing or even rephrasing it.<br />
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SEND A MESSAGE IF<br />
- you are interested in a field of business or hobby of the person and have a "real" reson to contact them, like: <br />
"Hi, I see you do underwater golf and lie in my area. I am wondering if you could point me to underwater golf courses around town." (So mainly if you have somethiung in common AND if there is some 'actual' issue you have. OK, messaging to meet somone who is n your area and in a similar business for coffe might also be OK. Main thing is: there should be a reason.)<br />
- the person was on your profile and you feel that they either have met you or that there is possibly a talking topic: <br />
"Hi; I see that you have visited my profile. I will be in your area and give a talk about [possible common interest] there and then. If you are interested in meeting there I'd be glad." or <br />
"I see you have visited my profile and also have meen at [event]. Have we met? Can I help you?"<br />
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SEND A CONTACT REQUEST IF<br />
- you met the person, introduced youself and spoke more than half a sentence. ("Hi, I am Bob - oh, wait a sec." (Leave and never talk to the person again) is not enough ;))<br />
- you have been in contact though another channel (E-mail, chat etc. that was not spam ;) (So someone answered a comment in your blog, you had a longer discussion there - then IMed for some time etc.)<br />
- you have a reason to. (Growing your hand the other persons network is not yet a reason ;) (It's a little like: "Buy this car because I need your money.")<br />
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HOW NOT TO BE MISTAKEN FOR A SPAMMER<br />
Generally & in short<br />
* communicate via social networks (or the social components of online-services) giving and having REASONS for the communication. Usuqally that is common contact or issue)<br />
* Keep the message individual. (How have you met? Why are you contacting the person now?)<br />
* That the other person visited my profile might be an acceptable reason to send a msg but maybe not one for a contact request<br />
* Sending contact requests or messages to all participants of an event you just attended but did not organize might also be a bad idea<br />
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WHAT TO DO WHEN SPAMMED<br />
- Decline the contact, explaining, who you usually add as a contact. You can keep a channel open if you feel it is just a premature contact request and should have been a message only. (Many accept and thus the spammer says: It can't have been spam, the people where happy about my messages)<br />
- Complain about the user (if it was not only a premature contact request)<br />
- maybe: Blog about the user (using an acceptable description of what he/she did)<br />
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There is a special form of spamming that 'just' involves entering bookmarks into bookmark services. No messages are involved (if you don't subscribe to the feed). As this is also 'polluting the channel' and making the channel less useful. Spam blogs (splogs) and Spam Wikis are also forms of spamming, but I wanted to concentrate on social networks per se. You will find some of those mentioned un the 'social spam' search at Google below.<br />
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EXAMPLES/ other blog entries:<br />
* <a href="http://typo.twoday.net/stories/3145068/">http://typo.twoday.net/stories/3145068/</a> (Spam via Mybloglog)<br />
* <a href="http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/2004/04/15/social-spamming/">http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/2004/04/15/social-spamming/</a> - A SoSp 'accident' (so the sender(s) spammed involutarily and even spammed their own blogs via Mail2Post! ZeroDegrees<br />
* <a href="http://heuer.sajonara.de/2007/01/23/social-spamming-die-zweite/">http://heuer.sajonara.de/2007/01/23/social-spamming-die-zweite/</a> - A Chat conversation with a social spammer<br />
* <a href="http://netzstimmen.de/eintrag.php?id=36">http://netzstimmen.de/eintrag.php?id=36</a> - another chat conversation w/ someone who claims not to have spammed<br />
* <a href="http://www.toprankblog.com/2006/12/dos-and-donts-of-spamming-social-media/">http://www.toprankblog.com/2006/12/dos-and-donts-of-spamming-social-media/</a> - (mainly) about abusing Digg and similar voting systems<br />
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SEARCHES<br />
* <a href="http://www.google.de/search?&q=social%20spamming">http://www.google.de/search?&q=social%20spamming</a><br />
* <a href="http://www.google.de/search?&q=social%20spam">http://www.google.de/search?&q=social%20spam</a>
OliverG
social spamming
Copyright © 2007 OliverG
2007-01-25T08:15:00Z
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"marina" ist eine MyBlogLog-Spammerin
http://typo.twoday.net/STORIES/3151861/
Nur damit es erwähnt ist:<br />
[via <a href="http://www.mybloglog.com/buzz/members/marina/">marina - MyBlogLog</a>]
OliverG
social spamming
Copyright © 2007 OliverG
2007-01-07T11:23:00Z
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Social Spamming?
http://typo.twoday.net/STORIES/3145068/
<a href="http://www.mybloglog.com/buzz/members/ShoeMoney/">ShoeMoney @MyBlogLog</a> ist Jeremy Shoemaker, ein Search Engine Marketer. (Er hat auch n Blog, aber das verlinke ich mal nicht.) Und er hat mich gerade als Kontakt in MyBlogLOg hinzugefügt.<br />
Ich hab nur null Ahnung, woher ich ihn kennen soll. ich hab ihn mal im Mybloglog-Kommentar gefragt und via Skype kontaktiert.<br />
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Riecht minimal nach Spam.<br />
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Übehaupt finde ich, dass es grundsätlich möglichs ein sollte, jemand bei einem solchen Kontaktversuch eine Nachricht zu übermitteln (wie bei xing oder Skype). Bei MBL geht das nicht und ich glaube auch z.B. bei Flickr nicht. Doof, finde ich.<br />
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Update: Mein Interview mit ihm:<br />
<a href="http://netzstimmen.de/eintrag.php?id=36">http://netzstimmen.de/eintrag.php?id=36</a>
OliverG
social spamming
Copyright © 2007 OliverG
2007-01-05T09:42:00Z
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